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Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

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Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Martin — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:49:50 -0000

Just kidding about the Zune (I have an iPod). Glad to hear thereâs a happy ending to all this

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Champion — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:29:12 -0000

Clearly Yahoo wants bloggers to keep using the service but doesn’t want them to look at it as a marketing tool.

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Kevin — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:23:41 -0000

Just kidding about the Zune (I have an iPod). Glad to hear thereâ€™s a happy ending to all this

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C Richey — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:26:30 -0000

LOL. I love threads like this. Great link bait guys. Really, well done.

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Sohbet — Thu, 17 May 2007 14:04:10 -0000

Just kidding about the Zune (I have an iPod). Glad to hear thereâ€™s a happy ending to all this.

MLB guys busted their behinds to put out a great service and if major players bow out because someone outside the team made a misinformed remark, then the whole system starts sucking and becomes a parlor trick for small time bloggers.

Andy, kudos for being the bigger man in all this.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

cordsilverstein — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:35:29 -0000

Andy,

I am glad to see this was resolved.

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Andy Beal — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:34:49 -0000

Thanks Kim. I agree that no matter who you are, when you blog, you represent your employer, regardless of the disclaimers.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Kim Krause Berg (cre8pc) — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:30:47 -0000

I hated watching you experience this Andy. Anyone who knows you would have also been here when you and Shoemoney first started your "competition". It was done out in the open and had Mybloglog had any objections to it, THEY could have spoken up or contacted you, back then.

There's something more happening here, which is rampant now all over the Internet. And that is the ease, freedom and ability to publically blast an individual, company or website to hell. It's common to see public accusations made in an emotional state, or delivered with no research. It seems to be accepted behavior to purposely pick on people, no matter who they are, just because you can. Jeremy Z. even admitted to knowing you. That somehow makes what he did okay? We meet someone and they become an easy target?

When someone with a huge following or strong reputation also publically goes after someone half-cocked, I lose respect for them and rarely do they get it back. It's especially important, in my mind, that though a blog may be considered one's own opinion, when the blog writer is an employee or representative of a large corporation, they are a public face to that company, whether they want to be or not.

I'm sorry for a long comment. I think there's more to your experience that's worthy of exploring, for those interested in human behavior and the Internet :)

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

FireMan — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:20:38 -0000

You are owed an apology Andy. Surely this will not harm your business but having your name attached to the word spam by a respected Yahoo! figure is wrong.

On the business side how many clients have you counseled to use Yahoo! marketing services?

Perhaps Yahoo! should apologize.
I do like the new avatar, very clever!

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Jarrod — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:17:12 -0000

I'm glad to see that Jeremy finally apologized.

Everyday it becomes more and more clear to me the awesome responsibility bloggers have.

It is so easy to wake up in the morning on the wrong side of the bed, and say something that you'll regret later.

The web is an unforgiving place. By the time you figure out you said something wrong, it has been archived by a dozen places already.

Hopefully enough positivity will come out of the conclusion to offset some of the bad vibes it caused.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Loren — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:50:19 -0000

Andy,

While I still think the Zune contest was interesting and a good way to draw more users to MyBlogLog and your MyBlogLog Marketing Pilgrim community, and I do not think you were spamming them,...

I would like to say that I'm already pretty sick myself of seeing so many other businesses and blogs running ads in their screenshot AND/OR avatar spot. Especially in the avatar spot.

I'm also tired of getting those little "You visited our blog and we suggest _______.com messages in my "Check It!" MyBlogLog messages :)

There's a thin red line between networking, pitching and 'spamming' and MyBlogLog seems to be a new breeding ground for such. I'd rather use it as a way to connect with like-minded users than push my blog or my community onto others outside of the faceroll or MyBlogLog tools. But, that's just me.

So, you gonna send Jeremy a Zune?

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Barry Smyth — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:24:20 -0000

Where is Jeremy's response to this post?

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Douglas Karr — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:05:16 -0000

I was taken aback at his post as well... but not as surprised as the number of sites that instantly jumped on the bandwagon to promote it. Had they looked at the ad, they would have seen it was a marketing contest. I'm disappointed in the sites that promoted the garbage in the first place. I hope you take them to task as well.

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Joe Duck — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:53:28 -0000

Thanks Andy, now I understand what you meant by helping MBL with the promotion and agree you were helping them. Scott checked in over at Jeremy's blog and agreed this was appropriate behavior in his eyes. However I'd like to see MBL as a policy stick to conventional avatars.

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Jason Schramm — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:52:09 -0000

I love the new site photo. I for one only joined the site because of your zune promotion, and then I started hearing about it leading up to the Yahoo purchase.

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JGriggs — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:09:00 -0000

you're going to have to pay people to accept that Zune...

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Tony Spencer — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:30:45 -0000

I think I'd consider Jeremy's foray into selling text links to the highest bidder on his site much closer to SPAM than this.

I've lost a lot of respect for Jeremy on this one.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Jim "Genuine" Turner — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:54:00 -0000

No problem Joe I'm always open for discussion and I do see the thoughts behind what your point is, but if you think Yahoo spent that kind of money to make them feel good and be a part of a community you may be not seeing the forest for the trees.

MBL is becoming the new Myspace for blogs or so I've seen it stated. They bought this app for the community yes, but they bought it for the power that community brings. This community will be used as a marketing tool for Yahoo. In fact, they have already begun that transfer of other tools purchased to make it even more powerful in that regard. It's like playing Risk, you buy up all the army you can and when the Marketing war is unleashed against Google and other armies, they hope to have the power they have purchased.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

baron — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:53:52 -0000

Just kidding about the Zune (I have an iPod). Glad to hear there's a happy ending to all this.

Andy, kudos for being the bigger man in all this.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Andy Beal — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:52:46 -0000

Thanks to everyone for their support, both here and on Jeremy's blog.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Andy Beal — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:51:46 -0000

Joe - the Zune promotion has led a lot of people to join MyBlogLog, not just my community. Sure, I get people coming to my site, but it's not like I get any revenue from MBL. I could have just set the contest based on who comments on my posts, instead, I wanted to build the community.

ToddW - I agree. I try not to bitch about other bloggers. I may critique a site here or there, but Jeremy has my email and cell, he could have contacted me privately and saved us this whole mess.

I have no issue with him taking offense at my promotion, but to suggest I am spamming is an insult.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

ToddW — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:47:31 -0000

Can't we all just get along and blog and not compete ;) with each other and bitch. Blogging is turning into a big bitch fest! He said she said crap is annoying and is not good for loyal readers IMHO.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

Joe Duck — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:43:42 -0000

Jim - at the risk of sounding like a Prick2.0, I don't agree. In fact this is a *great* debate about what lies in the online future.
Like many Yahoo aquisitions MBL was probably seen as a nicely done 2.0/community building/marketing environment. It's Jeremy's job to keep this on track as a community site, and Andy's to build traffic to his site.

Andy needs to clarify for me why he thinks the Zune promo is more for MBL's benefit than his own - I don't get that.

Re: Jeremy Zawodny Apologizes

randfish — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:40:15 -0000

Andy - I'm surprised, too, by Jeremy's post. I think he doesn't understand the concept of "spam," as you've noted. I did join your MyBlogLog community, however, and I think I'll urge SEOmoz readers to do likewise.