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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

venera seo — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 05:33:10 -0000

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

WilsonHines — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:53:05 -0000

The Nike+ website is the perfect example of a "love/hate? relationship with Adobe Flash. Sometimes I love what the software can do with my running stats and such. However, the load time sucks - even on cable. Sometimes the navigation on the site doesn't make too much sense, either.

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

GameReclaim — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:11:02 -0000

I personally like the idea for a simple reason. When I make a flash game and publish it on the web it gets stolen by let's say 100 sites in the following 48 hours. The game contains a link to my site but that's worthless because google can't see it. Example: search for "astroflyer". the official site is on the 14th page.

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Top Rated Digital — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:07:02 -0000

I'm with you on this one Andy . . . . yeccchhhh! Although, I wouldn't worry about Google destroying the web this move (they already did that with AdSense). I don't see too many SEO's jumping into flash because of this. Most people that design flash sites, couldn't care less about search engine traffic. They're going for the cool factor. Or more likely their idea of "cool".

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

PS3 — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:58:04 -0000

I've noticed in the past that Google has indexed some flash elements on a page but never a whole site. Time will tell.

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Anil Kumar Singh — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:36:55 -0000

This is really good news for SEO expert but i think normal Static page is always better from SEO perspective.

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Andy Beal — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:33:58 -0000

@Derek - I'm not an expert in nuclear fallout either, but I know it's not healthy. :-)

Flash is, mostly, a very poor option for usability and, until today's announcement proves otherwise, SEO.

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Guest — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:08:39 -0000

Andy...you said:

"sorry, I’m not a Flash expert, so I have no idea."

So how can you put down the application so easily?

There's lots of ways that this can benefit sites created in flash as well as flex.

I really do not see any logic in your argument besides the fact that you simply have an opinion that you do not like flash.

It's a step forward for flash and seo in my eyes.

Both regular site design as well as flash site design have their place.

"Google just ruined the web." ... i think that's a little over the top.

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Utah Search Engine Optimizatio — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:07:33 -0000

Oh man, I fear clients now saying "look! we can do flash..yay". You're right, until proven that Flash is an HTML equivalent..forget it!

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

joehall — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:02:22 -0000

@tmdesigner I agree we will see if this changes anything through the SERPs.

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

tmdesigner — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:54:50 -0000

Una notizia davvero sconvolgente e sorprendente... vedremo quali sono i risultati reali sulle serp. Google continua a sorprenderci!

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Arthur Freydin — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:29:53 -0000

While having Google index Flash sites is great, what happens when a query points to a "section" deep inside the Flash site? I'm pretty sure that their search query is still going to land them on the beginning of the Flash file.
Even if Google has figured out how to land a user on a specific section within a Flash file (a bit unlikely), how will usability be affected? A site built on Flash introduces all kinds of "great" usability but can be very tight when it comes to linear navigation.

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Andy Beal — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:02:26 -0000

@Mike - I wouldn't care about the links either, but I would care about the user experience for my customers--which, with that Flash site, is lousy. :-)

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Mike — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:56:41 -0000

I actually wrote a post about having trouble linking to Taco Bell just the other day. I think an all flash site is a bad way to go just for that reason. But I doubt Taco Bell or McDonalds, etc, is really that worried about direct links...especially to their nutritional information :)

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Andy Beal — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:51:36 -0000

@Mike - but many of the links open new windows, and just try bookmarking the nutritional information for your favorite taco--a tough task in Flash.

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Mike — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:46:19 -0000

Andy, the Taco Bell site sure does make me hungry.

Maybe it is more appropriate for well known places that are planning on getting most of their traffic from type in instead of search.

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Andy Beal — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:38:01 -0000

@Nate - I have no problem with the use of Flash--I use it myself. However, I've yet to see any convincing argument for a web site to be built entirely using Flash. Perhaps you have one you'd like to share. :-)

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

joehall — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:08:06 -0000

Wow, this is an interesting development. I am still not a fan of flash. I too believe that it often times diminishes the user's experience. But, that said, I have a question: For my clients that already use flash, do I need to make sure that they update to a new version for their content to be indexed?

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Jason Billingsley — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:05:57 -0000

Because the link analysis Google does is still pretty important to its algo, Flash sites still suffer a pretty major setback. How many external links point to a point on a timeline, or a individual section in a Flash file...? You'll not be able to optimize for deep content, just the surface = no good for SEO anyways.

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Nate — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:36:10 -0000

You basically go on a rant about the annoying format of Flash without ever considering why people use Flash. Do you enjoy web video...welcome to Flash. Do you enjoy an immersive web experience...welcome to Flash. A good designer knows the benefits of Flash versus non-Flash, but now we don't have to tell clients they can have a nice brand site section on their home page because it's isn't read by Google. SEO has long been the killer of innovative design.

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Kari Rippetoe — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:06:38 -0000

I'm really interested to see how this propagates - will there be new SEO rules for Flash? Will more webmasters and business owners start using Flash unnecessarily, or will they use it more carefully in order to get the most SEO value out of it?

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Mike — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:37:25 -0000

I guess that is the next logical step after Google search results started giving people a link to skip the flash intro on sites.

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

AndyBeard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:57:55 -0000

Google and Adobe are fobbing off the tech bloggers dressing up old technology as something new, but it still isn't search friendly.
http://www.timnash.co.uk/07...

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Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

WD — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:43:52 -0000

I agree with your points. I think some of the comments on their blog post by flash developers point out how the indexing is still not going to be as easy as they made it sound (and it was also interesting how it was pointed out some of their recommendations are not accessibility friendly).

Re: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process

Nicole Price — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:34:04 -0000

This is very interesting news. It is however too early to go one way or the other. It is better to wait for a while and see. I look forward to more posts from you on actual user experiences.

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